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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: May 23, 2009 4:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: best china/rider

As always, I think I'll go against the grain and admit that I prefer China and Rider as separate songs, not as China>Rider. Sometimes the transition is jammin', but I actually think that the Feelin' Groovy/UJB/w/e-it's-called jam is pretty pedestrian, kindergarten stuff compared to other jams (think Slipknot! or The Eleven)...

Favorite China Cat Sunflower (explosive!):

http://www.archive.org/details/gd69-06-05.sbd.cotsman.15204.sbeok.shnf

Favorite I Know You Rider (righteous!):

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1966-09-16.vintagedead.25283.sbeok.shnf

That being said, I will put a link to an UNUSUAL China/Rider. It's different than the rest because it's so...durn....slow....

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1972-07-18.sbd.miller.32878.flac16


This post was modified by Styrofoam Cueball on 2009-05-23 23:46:16

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: May 23, 2009 6:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: best china/rider

agreed, the earlier China Cat sequences are pretty special; have you checked out the 2/22/68 version from the taper section of a couple of years ago?

http://www.dead.net/features/tapers-section/february-12-february-18-2007

perfect example of why '68 is THE year

This post was modified by Arbuthnot on 2009-05-24 01:41:49

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: May 23, 2009 7:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: best china/rider

Those early DS/CCS/Eleven suites are interesting. The GD obviously wanted an upbeat rocker, in "E", to put between the ethereal Dark Star and the swingin' The Eleven, and the early CCS's were in that slot, St. Stephen not having been written yet. When Stephen was put in that slot, CCS was moved upward to "G" and removed from the suite. I like it better in the 'higher' key: suits Jer's voice better.

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Poster: falconcry77 Date: May 23, 2009 5:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: best china/rider

speaking of UNUSUAL china>riders, it's hard to ignore 06-26-74 (dick's picks 12). The drawn out jam for an intro and the "feelin groovy jam" in the seguey are both not only unique, they are very well done, especially the end of "feelin groovy" into rider - just exactly perfect.

here's an aud, but i'd suggest the picks...

http://www.archive.org/details/gd74-06-26.moore.weiner.gdADT17.16037.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: roo_nyc Date: May 23, 2009 6:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: best china/rider

I love this one too. It's clear Garcia had been listening to a lot of Muscle Shoals records that day; he starts off funky, phil figures it out after a measure, and the boys just take off into this greasy collard green jam. Phil tries to head into feelin' groovy early, but Garcia's not ready, and pulls the entire band back - there's one measure they're all playing the same note - and then off he goes again.

Great stuff. Long transition, too.

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Poster: Sh3rman420 Date: Feb 16, 2010 7:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: best china/rider

6/16/74 Greatest China/Rider ever

Can get the whole show from Nugs.net in free stash

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